Wednesday, January 31, 2007

Negative prophecy - or message of hope?

My Isaiah word certainly seems to have stirred things up – I say ‘my’ word but I sincerely believe it came from God.

I have had some wonderfully encouraging emails and more importantly news of other prophetic words from around the world all agreeing with this and with each other.

One of the concerns registered by some on the SA IHQ forum (and in comments here) has been the validity of prophecy within the modern church and how we discern what is from God and what is merely personal opinion dressed up as prophecy.

The following definition comes from the wonderful wikipedia.org (the amateur theologian’s best friend!) BTW the links are Wikipedia’s not mine.



“In the Bible prophecy is often referred as one of the fivefold ministries or spiritual gifts that accompany the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. The five ministries being; Apostles; Prophets; Evangelists; Teachers and Pastors.(Eph. 4:11) The focus of prophecy is not just future events though, this is only part of the prophetic gifting. Prophets often brought words of comfort, exhortation or general upliftment to the Church. Paul teaches in Corinthians that it is for the benefit of the whole body. It is not meant in Christianity for believers to know the future. But it is important for God to speak to believers as he does through his prophets.”

Far too often prophetic words are see as missives of doom and gloom where as most prophetic words are (if read in context) positive.

If you went to see a Doctor and he told you that you had a particularly invasive form of cancer which threatened to kill you in 6 months you might understandably see that as negative news. However if he went on to tell you that with treatment, diet and exercise you could expect a complete cure his message (in context) would be far from hopeless.

In his first interview as General (almost a year ago to the day) Shaw Clifton said in response to the following question:

Do you have a sense of where that breaking and moulding needs to happen? What strategies do you want to use?”

"It is too early to be specific, but this High Council has mandated the next General to find appropriate, loving ways of asking The Salvation Army some fairly awkward, difficult questions. We are all exercised by the Army’s inability to grow numerically in certain parts of the world. We rejoice that in many places the Army is rapidly expanding. Globally we are bigger than ever before and getting bigger. This High Council has mandated me to ask: If God is withholding numerical growth from parts of the Army, why is that blessing withheld?Rather than discussing strategy, method, ceremony or even identity, I have a deep sense in my heart that God wants us to follow the example of the Old Testament prophets when they sensed God’s blessing was withheld. The prophets went to God’s people asking: Is there sin in the camp? Now that is a very difficult and pointed question. One has to be very tender and sensitive before even raising it but perhaps God is saying, ever so gently and ever so lovingly: I love you, Salvation Army, but would you please look within and see if there is sin in the camp, and if there is anything that causes the blessing to be withheld we must deal with it.Some issues will be personal to individual Salvationists, others will be corporate. I would like to find a way as General of being a catalyst and put that biblical question to Salvationists. We may find that as we draw nearer to him, closer to him in purity and righteousness, the blessings begin to flow where at present they sometimes appear to be withheld.”

Some might see the fact that God is withholding victory and blessing back as negative but take the General’s message in context and it becomes full of hope.

Let me reinforce what I said earlier - There is ‘sin in the camp’ (see Joshua 7 if you don’t know what this means) and this sin is holding back the growth and development of The Salvation Army. This sin (as the General states is both ‘personal’ and ‘corporate’. Failure to deal with it will result in death but earnest and sincere repentance with fasting accompanied by holiness, faith and obedience (prefect love) will result in global revival – what is negative about that?


God bless the Army!

A








5 comments:

Rob said...

Good post, although I would caution against placing too much weight on Wikipedia.

I believe with all I am that God is speaking to his Army and is about to break loose with his power and revival.

Keep preaching, brother!

Captain Andrew Clark said...

Hi brother, don't feel you need to defend what you say, or the message God has given you. I believe as prophets our task is to deliver the word and let God take it where he will whilst responding to it ourselves.

:o)

Andrew

Anonymous said...

There is no doubt that this is the time when the Army will rise up again in the western world. Too many people are thinking the same thing for there to be no glorious consequence. God's fingerprints are all over it.

What's awesome is that we know the secret to soulwinning (holiness). What's even more awesome is that we have a global army to mobilise for that sole purpose. The next step is how we mobilise. I've got a few thoughts on this but would love to hear the ideas of others and how they see this coming about.

The current situation has been assessed (prophecy), the problem has been analysed (sin), now we just need to know the solution(s) and the cost in relation to the profit!

eeellama said...

I would love for the General to be specific about where there is sin in the camp. It will hurt, but it needs to be done.

On another blog, not related to TSA, I defended us against the accusation of being an "unbiblical organization", but notice how we are being perceived by some street preachers! NWDYS was also not far off in a recent posting on his blog about what we might look like in 2017 (or maybe now?).

Let us all cry, weep and wrestle with God to set us on fire for winning souls, even if we don't get one more dollar in donations from the world because they will hate us again.

Anonymous said...

Amen to all this.

I do believe the call is to social holiness, or to use the phrase in the 24-7 Vision poem, "holiness that hurts the eyes."

Social holiness requires justice. Justice starts with mercy, but does not end there. TSA is maybe teh best in the world at mercy work, as far as variety of problems addressed, mobilisation of funds and workers, etc..., and this is very good.

But no one ever hated anyone else for doing mercy work. Just focusing on mercy lets you stay in the place where everyone thinks you're nice, and you get awards. Mercy does not upset the apple cart, it doesn't question society, it feeds people but doesn't ask why people are hungry in the first place.

Justice makes people angry, because it involves pointing out that something is very wrong with how we are all living.

I believe the call to justice and the call to holiness are one and the same. I believe this is where the Army has always been called, and I believe (hope and pray) that we are once again hearing this call and girding up to obey.

Grace,

Aaron